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Links to projects:
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Experimental Sciences groundbreaking ceremonies, April
2002.
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John Fanning and Scott Fanning demonstrate a proper "Guns
Up" salute to Jorge de la Cal, project architect for Anshen+Allen-LA.
Projects on the boards:
Animal Science, Texas Tech
MHMR projects in Big Spring and San Angelo
Cingular Wireless projects
TTU CHACPII projects
Covenant SER, Lubbock
TxDot projects
AFB projects
USDA Cotton Classing projects
- .Editorials
- Norris Fanning - my personal 2 cents worth.
- Award on the Base Bid?
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- There is a practice being advocated in the construction industry to
which our firm does not subscribe. It is a deviant form of the bid proposal
known as "base bid." In this format, the plans and specifications
are written around a specific make and model of equipment. The bidders
have the opportunity to present substitutes, accompanied by a stipulated
change in the bid price. The bidders are instructed that the award
of the contract will be on the base bid.
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- In this scenario, alternates do not figure in the calculation to determine
who is the low bidder, only in adjusting the amount of the contract. There
is, then, no incentive to seriously compete on alternates, or even to propose
substitutes. Getting the specified equipment is almost certain.
- The temptation to use this format is insidious and compelling:
- From the agent's perspective:
- 1. It absolutely eliminates bid peddling.
- 2. It allows him to use creative salesmanship instead of cut-throat
competition.
- 3. It enables him to productively direct his promotional efforts.
- 4. No problem interpreting the specs or guessing at intent.
- 5. He can put enough money in the job to justify his attention.
- From the bidder’s perspective:
- 1. It levels the playing field; everybody bases the price on the same
equipment.
- 2. Bidder can set his own price on alternates to fit his situation.
- 3. It avoids coordination problems between trades for substitutions.
- 4. Expect the supplier to be more accommodating of changes during construction.
- 5. Expect a higher level of support on start-up.
- From the specifier’s perspective:
- 1. We could get a lot more help from manufacturer’s representatives.
- 2. We would not have to spend any time checking the shop drawings.
- 3. We would not have to revise the drawings to accommodate substitutes.
- 4. Suppliers should back us up on errors and omission claims.
- 5. Our fee would not be reduced by deductive alternates, which cost
money to prepare.
- 6. We are responsible for the design and ought to have the say on what
goes on our jobs.
- 7. Agents might even help us get business if they have a stake in it.
- Advocates would say this approach brings the expertise of the agents
and manufacturers into the process at the earliest stage of a project.
They become virtual partners in the design process. All the engineer has
to do is to decide whose equipment he is going to specify on the
job. Agents for the base bid equipment will run computer selections,
write and proof specs, prepare accurate estimates, work with the drafters
directly on the drawings, and check the final product. That’s a lot
of work. It does not seem right to ask it if the agent cannot expect something
in return.
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- Sometimes, when all these advantages are explained to the client, they
agree to it. Sometimes, in order to get preferred equipment, for whatever
reason, they encourage it. So why, with so much going for it, and so many
members of the construction "team" advocating it, would our firm
stand against it?
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- The answer is really quite simple:
- We have a solemn duty to represent
our Client’s interests on every commission for which
we are professionally retained. The practice of awarding on base bid is
quite properly illegal on most public work. It is patently unethical on
any project in our opinion.
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- The policy of Fanning, Fanning and Associates, inc. concerning base
bid type specifications has always been for the traditional "base
bid and alternates" with the award of
the contract based on best construction as determined by the client.
This will continue to be our policy, and our practice
unless specifically directed otherwise by our client on a project by project
basis.
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- Legendary Lubbock: Love it or Leave it.
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- .....Best I can tell, most of us here
live in Lubbock, Texas by choice. West Texas' wide open spaces fits my
concept of freedom. The can-do attitude of West Texans fits my philosophy
of life. The ethnic diversity of Lubbock fits my view of what society ought
to be. If there was a better place to live than Lubbock, I'd move there.
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- ....I have no patience with whiners who
pine for what we don't have. We don't have mountains, rivers, forests or
seashores. We also don't have the problems that go with them. Been there,
done that. Here, the environment does not get in the way of what we want
to do with our lives. Some of us see more beauty (and prosperity) in amber
waves of grain than in purple mountain's majesty. Now, I enjoy travel as
much as the next guy. Live here - Visit there seems the right
order to me. For folks that think happiness is Lubbock in the rear view
mirror, there are 4 lane highways leaving town in all directions. There
is no iron curtain around Lubbock.
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- .....Lubbock is about right for this generation:
Large enough to support all the amenities of a civilized life. Small enough
to be friendly. Organized enough to maintain order. Opportunities enough
to match any reasonable ambition. Appropriate scale for our economic base.
Perfectly laid out for ease of navigation. Strategically located as the
crown jewel of the Llano Estacado. Our city founders and past leaders made
very few mistakes.
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- .....This area is big and rich compared
to other places. We have real economic opportunity to increase our production,
enhance our products, and market them to the world. Technology, transportation,
and communication have wiped out the barriers to marketing our more abstract
products, like education, medicine, engineering, software, and professional
services. We need play to our strengths for economic development, not the
short term gain. Promoting tourism and a developer's perspective has its
place, but these are not our strong suits.
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CSI The
Lubbock chapter of the Construction
Specifications Institute.
Meets at 5:30 on Second Mondays
Officers 2000 - 2001
President ------------ Ken Condray
......806-748-6190
1st Vice President - Mike
Kirkpatrick 800-448-1405
2st Vice President - Steve
Daughtry .. 806-745-1225
Sec-Treas ----------- Steve
Robinson .. 806-744-4490
President Elect ---- Randy Hooks
..... 806-765-5577
Past President ----- Tom Ferguson
.... 806-797-8400
Director ------------- Joe Rapier
......... 806-473-3531
Director -------------- Greg
Durbin ..... 806-866-9489
Members:
Mr. Andy Anderson,
CSI Acme Brick Box 1302
Lubbock TX 79408
806-747-3181
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Ms. Catherine Arnold
Texas Tech University
Box 43107
Lubbock TX 79409
806-742-3585 Fax: 806-742-1699
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Mr. Ken Condray, RA, CSI
Condray Design Group, Inc.
2525 74th Street
Lubbock TX 79423
806-748-6190 Fax: 806-748-6193
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Mr. Kevin Egan
P.O. Box 43107
Lubbock TX 79409
806-745-0250 Fax: 806-742-1699
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Mr. Norris L. Fanning, PE,
CSI
Fanning, Fanning & Associates,
inc
2555 74th Street
Lubbock TX 79423
806-745-2533 Fax: 806-745-3596
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Mr. Tom Ferguson, RA, CSI
Lee Lewis Construction, Inc.
PO Box 65197
Lubbock TX 79464-5197
806-797-8400 Fax: 806-797-8492
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Mr. Eugene R. Frazier, CSI
Furrs Bishops, Inc.
Box 6747, 6901 Quaker A
Lubbock TX 79493
806-788-2485 Fax: 806-788-2304
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Mr. Justin Haire
3508 Bangor Drive
Lubbock TX 79407
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Mr. Mark S. Hallgren, CSI
The Hallgren Company
5909 63rd Street
Lubbock TX 79424
806-798-7200 Fax: 806-798-3999
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Mr. Randy N. Hooks, Jr., CSI
Lydick-Hooks Roofing Company
P. O. Box 2605
Lubbock TX 79408
806-765-5577
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Mr. Kirk Hughlett, CSI
5701 3rd
Lubbock TX 79416
806-797-8400 Fax: 806-797-8492
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Mr. Mike Kirkpatrick, CSI,
CDT
Chicago Metallic Corporation
3606 78th Drive
Lubbock TX 79423
800-448-1405
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Mr. J. Michael Landress, RA,
CSI
Landress Architecture
1720 Avenue M
Lubbock TX 79401
806-747-0991 Fax: 806-747-3705
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Mr. Joe D. Mc Kay, RA, CSI
Joe D. McKay, Architect
1402 Avenue N
Lubbock TX 79401
806-744-4490 Fax: 806-744-4494
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Mr. Jerry Mc Lean, CSI
Mc Lean Roof Deck Co., Inc.
P. O. Box 5705
Lubbock TX 79408
806-747-3423
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Mr. Don E. McClendon, Jr.,
CSI
Western Bldg. Spec., Inc.
P. O. Box 414
Lubbock TX 79408
806-744-4501 Fax: 806-744-8763
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Mr. Robert C. Messersmith,
Sr., RA, CSI
MWM Architects Inc.
2574 74th St. Suite 201
Lubbock TX 79423
806-745-7707 Fax: 806-745-7620
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Mr. Richard D. Potter, PE,
CSI
P.O. Box 93190
Lubbock TX 79493
806-742-3538 Fax: 806-742-1699
Mr. Paul A. Presson, CSI
Parkhill, Smith & Cooper,
Inc
4010 Avenue R
Lubbock TX 79412
806-747-0168
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Mr. Joseph R. Rapier, CSI
Parkhill, Smith & Cooper,
Inc
4010 Avenue R.
Lubbock TX 79412
806-747-0161 Fax: 806-747-7146
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Mr. Tony M. Ratliff, CSI
All Texas Builders, Inc.
P. O. Box 3486
Lubbock TX 79452
806-745-9763
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Steve Robinson, CSI
Joe D. McKay, AIA
1402 Avenue N
Lubbock TX 79401
806-744-4490 Fax: 806-744-4494
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Mike E. Soto
1130 Puerto Rico
El Paso TX 79915
806-742-5082
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Steven Arthur Ward, CSI, AIA
SAW Architecture/Interiors
2611 25th Street
Lubbock TX 79410
806-763-8517
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Mr. Frank E. Wilson, Jr.,
CCS
B G R Architects-Engineers
2118-34th St.
Lubbock TX 79411
806-747-3881 Fax: 806-747-8214